There has been a lot of controversy surrounding the turn-basedRPGgenre as of late. There are both newcomers to the genre heralding the likes ofClair Obscur: Expedition 33as a return-to-form for the genre, while hardcore fans have rallied to its defense, claiming it never lost its luster. All of this discourse has led to the likes of Ben Starr, the acclaimed actor behind iconic RPG heroes likeFinal Fantasy 16’sClive andClair Obscur’sVerso, to chime in.

Ben Starr’s amazing gaming opinionshave often steered us right, so it feels prudent to listen to him once again, especially when it comes down to the genre he is truly an expert. Frankly, his recent comments on turn-based games are undeniably true, and it feels as if they put the whole drama to bed. Whether you’re a fan or a newcomer, you should listen to Ben Starr ashe is absolutely right when it comes to the state of turn-based RPGs now and beforeClair Obscur: Expedition 33.

Maelle fighting a Chromatic Creation in Clair Obscur: Expedition 33.

Ben Starr Reminds People That Turn-Based RPGs Didn’t Go Away

Currently, and certainly around the release ofClair Obscur: Expedition 33,there has been a lot of discussion around the popularity of turn-based RPGs. Many who have been fans of the genre since its inception, or even in the last decade or so, believe that turn-based RPGs, while always improving, have never gone out of style. Those whose first experience with a turn-based RPG isClair Obscuroften believe it resurrected a dead genre.

That’s partially because the main player in the turn-based RPG space,Final Fantasy, ditched the format withFF16, and, to a lesser extent,FF7 Remakeand its sequels. In fact, this debate about the popularity of the genre reached a boiling point when many began arguing about whetherFinal Fantasyshould be turn-basedagain, or stick to its newfound love for the action RPG style of combat. Of course,speaking as a fan of turn-based RPGs, it is clear that the genre has been alive and strong for a very long time.

Chained Echoes: Glenn, Victor, Robb, and Lenne discover a Sky Armor in the wilderness.

The likes ofPersona 5have helped maintain its relevancy in the modern eraby expanding the definition of a turn-based RPG, whilePokémonhas continued to cement the genre’s legacy as accessible to all ages. In the AA scene,Octopath Travelerand numerous other Square Enix-developed RPGs have continued to cater to fans, while indies likeSea of Starshave modernized the old-school style of turn-based combat.

However, one shouldn’t just take my word for it. Ben Starr recently spoke toGamesRadarabout the boom in passion for turn-based RPGs, stating that while he’s grateful so many people have discovered the genre throughClair Obscur, he doesn’t believe it has resurrected it as so many claim. In fact,Starr goes on to state how there are so many other RPGs fans ofClair Obscurshould be checking out, while simultaneously thanking those who’ve enjoyed what is easily one of thegreatest turn-based RPGsever made.

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It’s Great To See Clair Obscur Bringing People Into Turn-Based RPGs

It Should Hopefully Spur Them On To Try Other Games In The Genre

Starr told GamesRadar that he feels “so lucky [to be] in a videogame right now that is celebrating a combat system that is alive and well, but that “it hasn’t brought [turn-based battles] back.” It is absolutely important to recognize, as Starr has, the impact Clair Obscur has had on the genre.It certainly, likePersona 5before it, brought it back into the spotlightby changing fundamental aspects of the formula to cater to a wider audience.

It has the complexity that some find lacking inPokémonas well as the real-time elements of a soulslike. Those aspects, combined with its nuanced narrative and cinematic storytelling, made it a smash hit that became one of2025’s best-selling games. However,as Starr explains, it didn’t bring back turn-based combat. That style never went away; it is only ever iterated on and changed to meet ever-shifting expectations.

Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 character standing in a field of flowers with a dark sky

Clair Obscur: Expedition 33shouldn’t be seen as the savior of the turn-based RPG, but rather a strong jumping off point. While its higher-budget and cinematic flair are rarely replicated in other games in the genre, the complexity of its combat and the depth of its mechanics is only a taste of what so many other RPGs have to offer. In fact, Starr had plenty of other RPGs to recommend to those who are discovering the genre for the first time.

Ben Starr Offers Recommendations For People Who Enjoyed Clair Obscur

From Indies To Square Enix Classics

When speaking to GamesRadar, Starr explained that those who are “discovering turn-based combat for the first time, and understanding the intricacies of turn-based combat” should check out the “rich well of games out there.” Specifically,he mentionsOctopath Traveler 2- although its predecessor is also well-worth playing- as well as one of thebest indie RPGs,Chained Echoes.

Starr mentionsChained Echoesseveral times, calling it “brilliant,“and claiming that “it has an amazing story to tell that’s just as heart-wrenching [as Clair Obscur].” Honestly, he isn’t wrong, as I found it to be just as affecting, despite the limitations of its admittedly extremely beautiful art style. If you need further proof,Chained Echoes’glowing reviewsand score of 90 onMetacritic- which is only three points behindClair Obscur- also point to Starr’s sentiments being true.

Clair Obscur Expedition 33 screenshot showing a large bent tower rising over a city

I would throw inSea of Starsas well asBloomtown: A Different Story, but Starr’s recommendations are absolutely must-plays. In fact, the whole indieRPGscene is full of phenomenal turn-based games that are worth checking out, bolstered by impressive art styles and the same nuanced storytelling found inExpedition 33.

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